Greg Kroah-Hartman - Linux - Philips Web cam - Nemosoft Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:24:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Hans Schou To: kroah@... Subject: Nemosoft: You did the right thing Hi Greg Kroah-Hartman A year ago I went out to buy a web-cam. I first did a quick search to see which one will work with Linux. It turned out that the Philips Web Cam was cheap and available at the local store - and it will work with Linux. When I got it and attached it, it did not work. Strange as it was on a list of web-cams which will work with Linux. I then found out that I had to add a closed source driver to get it to work. Damn, I have seen this before and it will not work in the long run. The best thing for me was if that cam was never on list of cams working with Linux. But I do not think I could blame those who put it on the list. I am more to blame Nemosoft or Philips. If there never was a driver for that cam I would not have bought it. Some years ago there was a network driver for Olicom TokenRing. The driver was binary. Now the company has stopped the production af NICs and the latest driver was for Linux kernel 2.0. Another story is about SmartDisk FlashPath where there also was a binary driver developed under NDA by LinuxCare. You can not get that driver anymore. Today you can buy a lot of grapic cards with binary drivers, like Nvidia, and people who buy those will get in that same situation one day like I did. I am done with binary drivers. Next time I buy a gadget I would look much more closely for the source to prevent situations like this. GPL is for protecting the end user, so GPL is not such a bad idea at all. It prevent people from getting stocked with useless hardware like I did. Nemosoft got 15 minutes of fame and 15 days of shame. Best regards and have fun Hans